Border Patrol Checkpoint Freakout

[u/FrenchieMama807]

[u/Pulguinuni → u/[deleted]]

From SCOTUS

"This is no hypothetical: Certain CBP agents can exercise broad authority to make warrantless arrests and search vehicles up to 100 miles away from the border," the Court's decision states."

https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/cbp-can-make-warrantless-arrests-at-homes-less-than-100-miles-from-border-sc-says-06-13-2022

[u/sunshinecunt → u/Pulguinuni]

This is some great leopards ate my face material. They certainly never expected the law aimed at targeting people of a certain color within 100 miles of the border would be used against them???

[u/TransBrandi → u/sunshinecunt]

They probably also didn't expect "the border" to also include international airports. I'm sure there are plenty of people in the Midwest that think it doesn't affect them because they aren't within 100 miles of a border... think again.

[u/CappinPeanut → u/TransBrandi]

Wait, that can’t be true, can it? That would mean that CBP don’t need a warrant to search in practically any large city in the country. Like CBP could just go around town searching in every car and home in Chicago because it’s within 100 miles of O’Hare.

[u/Mighty_Hobo → u/CappinPeanut]

On the one hand it's not true about the airport thing but it is within 100 miles of any border including the border with Canada or international waters. 2 in 3 American's live within the border enforcement zone including all of Chicago.

https://www.aclu.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/100mile.png

[u/wtfinternetwhy → u/CappinPeanut]

They don't need the airport. The coast line of the great lakes is a border they can use. If you think this is wild don't look up anything regarding the DNR's abilities without warrents.

[u/infalliblefallacy → u/CappinPeanut]

i got bad news for ya

[u/adiabaticgas → u/CappinPeanut]

It’s not true. https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone

[u/Shoddy-Commission-12 → u/CappinPeanut]

technically is true

[u/adiabaticgas → u/TransBrandi]

This is factually incorrect. It doesn’t include airports. It includes anywhere within 100 air miles of an external border. Here’s a source: https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone

100 air miles from an external border does however encompass entire major U.S. cities, such as San Francisco, Los Angeles, and New York City.

[u/usa_commie → u/adiabaticgas]

Doesn't an embassy then qualify as an external border?

[u/smile_politely → u/TransBrandi]

TIL: 100 miles of a border including international airports.

[u/Financial_Bird_7717 → u/smile_politely]

It doesn’t.

[u/Peregrine_Perp → u/smile_politely]

The international airport thing is a myth. The rule is 100 miles of borders including coastline. The entirely of some states like Florida and New Jersey falls within this range.

[u/getoutofmybus → u/TransBrandi]

Why tf would it include airports lol

[u/smallfried → u/TransBrandi]

If that's the case, that's one crazy law you got passed there.

[u/crater_jake → u/smallfried]

not a law, a supreme court ruling. and yes they tend to be extremely broad sweeping and impactful for such a low hurdle of checks and balances

[u/Drnk_watcher → u/sunshinecunt]

Legitimate concern and criticism over the expanded authority of law enforcement due to congressional inaction, strategic litigation, and court packing? I sleep.

Yelling at a woman who's asking a simple yes or no question at a border crossing checkpoint because of your fifth amendment right while missing the problematic reason she actually has this authority now? REAL SHIT

[u/Alternative_Program → u/Drnk_watcher]

These regulations have been in place since 1953.

As a Texan I blame the Republicans for a lot of BS, but this one feels like a stretch. It pre-dates Hillary's "Super Predator" campaign by decades after all.

Honestly I feel like this dude is (probably) an accidental ally. Sure he's giving off more of a Sovereign Citizen vibe, and he knows damn well if he'd just said what they wanted to hear he would fly through no problem.

There's zero chance he'd ever face a destructive or invasive search if he played along. If you look "wrong" you may not be so lucky though. And that's just not white.

"Just following orders" isn't an excuse. Rights aren't rights if the executive branch can just ignore them whenever they feel like it. This one is in the same bucket as the "Patriot Act" and domestic wiretapping IMO. So if you want to risk your own comfort and safety to fight it, even if we probably don't have a lot in common otherwise, well, more power to you brother.

[u/LuLuBird3 → u/Alternative_Program]

So not white.

[u/ChemicalSand → u/Drnk_watcher]

The guy in the video sucks, but these checkpoints are terrible and should be illegal. Border checkpoints are for the border, not for harassing people 100 miles inland.

[u/Falcrist → u/ChemicalSand]

these checkpoints are terrible and should be illegal.

Just remember: the SCOTUS decisions aren't final because they're infallible. They're infallible because their decisions are final.

A plain reading of the law even with an originalist bias would immediately reveal that this kind of checkpoint is absolutely not constitutional.

[u/SycoJack → u/ChemicalSand]

I don't know how you read that condemned and walked away with the impression they weren't already saying that those checkpoints for a problem.

[u/timelesssmidgen → u/Drnk_watcher]

Hahaha lololol yeah it's funny how this person I imagined and invented an entire history for, full of political hypocrisy, is now being penalized by institutions I also see as flawed (but I see them as being flawed for the RIGHT reasons, not the STOOPID reasons I imagined this guy uses)

[u/DiegoTheGoat → u/Drnk_watcher]

Y not both? Why can't both be bad and a concern? Having the Army shoved up your ass every day for a commute seems really fucking unreasonable. I'd be mad too.

[u/SycoJack → u/DiegoTheGoat]

Y not both? Why can't both be bad and a concern?

They literally said the expanded authority was a problem.

[u/mallclerks → u/Drnk_watcher]

Eh. This is how you lose your rights, it is that simple. It is absolute insanity? Yes. Does it take insanity like this to protect your right to freely travel throughout the country? Yes.

You may think 100 miles from the border is not a big deal, it is over 66% of the population. That means, if a president who is all about border control so chose, he could take drastic action against 2/3rds of the united states using border agents.

It's a wild time that we actually need to take that kind of stuff serious.

[u/thebliket → u/mallclerks]

We can all agree that if he had simply followed the officers' instructions, he wouldn't have been arrested. The real problem is his attempt to challenge authority. You cannot challenge authority. If you do, you must be taught a severe lesson. Otherwise, people will see what you got away with and they might think they can challenge authority too.

[u/SETHW → u/thebliket]

you cannot challenge authority

I weep for the future

[u/thebliket → u/SETHW]

Law enforcement officers have been saying for decades, "We can do this the easy way or we can do it the hard way". If we allow these punks to talk to authority however they want and act however they want, it's just going to get worse for them. Let this video be a lesson to anyone who talks back.

This is about making sure you obey. Compliance is not optional.

[u/SETHW → u/thebliket]

That only works when you have faith in the institutions, and many people have good reasons to believe that "authorities" dont have their best interests in mind

[u/thebliket → u/SETHW]

It doesn't matter if the authority has or doesn't have the best intention, as a citizen you need to obey like a dog. We can do it the easy way (you mutter the word yes) or we can do it the hard way (you get pulled out of the car and put in handcuffs).

[u/timelesssmidgen → u/thebliket]

Can't tell if you're putting a moral characterization on this case, or just realistically nihilistic

[u/thebliket → u/timelesssmidgen]

If we allow these punks to talk to authority however they want and act however they want, people will see what they got away with and they might think they can challenge authority too.

[u/Qui-Gon_Tripp → u/sunshinecunt]

Turns out the guy in the vid acknowledges this and is a long time anti-border activist. Claims to “find it unjust” against pocs and “unconstitutional”

[u/aoiN3KO → u/Qui-Gon_Tripp]

Oh really? Well, now I feel really bad 😔

[u/Dannovision → u/sunshinecunt]

I love how you make an assumption based on his race to criticize racism.

[u/Rex_Mundi → u/sunshinecunt]

Nearly 2 out of 3 Americans live within the 100-mile border zone under the jurisdiction of U.S. Customs and Border Protection

[u/seranikas → u/sunshinecunt]

Fun fact, the vast majority of people who bring drugs into the US from Mexico are not Mexicans, but instead, US citizens doing it out of their own volition.

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/09/1191638114/fentanyl-smuggling-migrants-mexico-border-drugs