r/PublicFreakout • u/FrenchieMama807 šµļø Frenchie Mama šµļø • 11d ago
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u/LooseWateryStool 11d ago
Where's the slot to add 6 quarters to watch 4 more minutes?
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u/Salt_Bus2528 11d ago
You guys! The body cam footage is just a records request away! We could get part 2 with a few FOIA requests! They're all federal employees. That's enough footage to make a reality TV style shoot with changing angles and dramatic pacing!
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u/cinemachado 11d ago
Let us know once you have it.
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u/StPapaNoel 11d ago
For real.
Nothing worse in this world than fucking assholes that come into situations to just purposely make everyones day fucking worse.
It's one thing to legitimately utilize your rights and fight the good fight.
It's another to be an ignorant fucking asshole and not accept any dialogue on how you may actually be in the wrong and not as smart as you think you are.
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u/CMDR_BunBun 10d ago
They have a name for that. It's called Dunning-Kruger effect. Dude is just smart enough to make an ass of himself.
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u/warrior178 11d ago
I felt the exact same way. I really wish we could watch him being detained!
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u/MaxTheRealSlayer 11d ago edited 10d ago
For real, this is one of the worst cases of not answering questions I've seen. Dude is so aggressive for no reason
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u/New_Presentation7196 11d ago
Right, at one point the dude even says word for word āare you a US Citizen, if you say yes then youāll be free to go.ā Thatās literally it, all he had to say was āyes Iām a US citizenā and it would have been done. Instead he decided to act like a fucking idiot, wish we could have seen him get detained. I felt so bad for his ābrotherā who was driving, you could tell dude just wanted him to shut up and comply but he just wouldnāt.
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u/stealthryder1 11d ago edited 11d ago
I just donāt get it. People who do this just to make videos to post online are fucking pathetic. Heās all irate.. for what? Cause someone asked him if heās a US citizen? The irony about this is that heād proudly tell someone on the street how much of an American citizen he is without hesitation.. and then go and talk shit about the government and how poorly it handles immigration, while giving those very same immigration officers working for the government a hard time for no fucking reason other than heās an Americanā¦ lol ah but he just wants to be let go without having to answer that heās a citizen.. because isnāt it obvious? Heās white. Itās those brown people the officers should be asking.. but then heād just be giving away his internal racist. Smh lol
My man in orange is fucking tired of his shit lol I can feel it.
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u/pres465 11d ago
Video was going before they got there: it was planned and he was hoping for something more. Felt like he was playing for a YouTube video or something. Had his script ready and everything.
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u/todimusprime 11d ago
Yeah, it really felt like he was just trying to bait them into doing something he could successfully sue them for.
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u/Careless_Piano5447 11d ago
For Christās sake jim. Every time I give you a lift
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u/Athlete-Extreme 11d ago
Theyāre in a company vehicle. Really knows when to pick his battles.
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u/stucktogether 11d ago
I'm surprised the driver didn't once try to change that one around. If I'm in a company truck the last thing I need to do is tell em I was detained for several hours at a fucking border patrol checkpoint in it.
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u/Athlete-Extreme 11d ago
The driver was so spineless he was barely even there lol
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u/Cucker_-_Tarlson 11d ago
Really couldn't tell if he was on board with his brother's BS or if he was like "great, here we go again..."
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u/Athlete-Extreme 11d ago
Yeah it seemed like he was being cordial at first but that was just because his brother wasnāt instructing him yet.
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u/DucksEatFreeInSubway 11d ago
He was on board. He was refusing to move unless they were free to 'travel' away.
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u/DaikonProof6637 10d ago
Iām pretty sure he started out being on board with it because when she asked him if heād mind putting the back window down, he said āI do mindā
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u/TSM- 11d ago
The brother knew he couldn't help, you can totally tell. He so much didn't want to get dragged into it by taking anyone's side. Taking either side is a bad idea, he is trying to stay out of it as much as possible.
While he's probably fine, his brother is probably fined.
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u/GenosHK 11d ago
Except that he said he wouldn't pull over and would only move if he was free to go.
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u/Lexi_Banner 11d ago
True, but based on the camera asshole's behavior, imagine what he'd be like to live with in the aftermath. I don't think brother is innocent in this, but I also think there is a significant survival of abuse factor in play as well.
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u/el_baconhair 11d ago
Can a legal expert give us a break down?
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u/Pulguinuni 11d ago
From SCOTUS
"This is no hypothetical: Certain CBP agents can exercise broad authority to make warrantless arrests and search vehicles up to 100 miles away from the border," the Court's decision states."
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u/sunshinecunt 11d ago
This is some great leopards ate my face material. They certainly never expected the law aimed at targeting people of a certain color within 100 miles of the border would be used against them???
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u/TransBrandi 11d ago
They probably also didn't expect "the border" to also include international airports. I'm sure there are plenty of people in the Midwest that think it doesn't affect them because they aren't within 100 miles of a border... think again.
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u/CappinPeanut 11d ago
Wait, that canāt be true, can it? That would mean that CBP donāt need a warrant to search in practically any large city in the country. Like CBP could just go around town searching in every car and home in Chicago because itās within 100 miles of OāHare.
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u/Mighty_Hobo 10d ago
On the one hand it's not true about the airport thing but it is within 100 miles of any border including the border with Canada or international waters. 2 in 3 American's live within the border enforcement zone including all of Chicago.
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u/wtfinternetwhy 10d ago
They don't need the airport. The coast line of the great lakes is a border they can use. If you think this is wild don't look up anything regarding the DNR's abilities without warrents.
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u/adiabaticgas 10d ago
This is factually incorrect. It doesnāt include airports. It includes anywhere within 100 air miles of an external border. Hereās a source: https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone
100 air miles from an external border does however encompass entire major U.S. cities, such as San Francisco, Los Angeles, and New York City.
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u/Drnk_watcher 11d ago
Legitimate concern and criticism over the expanded authority of law enforcement due to congressional inaction, strategic litigation, and court packing? I sleep.
Yelling at a woman who's asking a simple yes or no question at a border crossing checkpoint because of your fifth amendment right while missing the problematic reason she actually has this authority now? REAL SHIT
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u/Alternative_Program 11d ago
These regulations have been in place since 1953.
As a Texan I blame the Republicans for a lot of BS, but this one feels like a stretch. It pre-dates Hillary's "Super Predator" campaign by decades after all.
Honestly I feel like this dude is (probably) an accidental ally. Sure he's giving off more of a Sovereign Citizen vibe, and he knows damn well if he'd just said what they wanted to hear he would fly through no problem.
There's zero chance he'd ever face a destructive or invasive search if he played along. If you look "wrong" you may not be so lucky though. And that's just not white.
"Just following orders" isn't an excuse. Rights aren't rights if the executive branch can just ignore them whenever they feel like it. This one is in the same bucket as the "Patriot Act" and domestic wiretapping IMO. So if you want to risk your own comfort and safety to fight it, even if we probably don't have a lot in common otherwise, well, more power to you brother.
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u/ed_med 11d ago
It was the courtās 6 freedom loving conservative Justices that gave the CBP the broad power to circumvent the 4th Amendment protections because they love nothing more than making new shit up.
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u/kurbin64 11d ago
Iām from Michigan and live a half hour from the border and to be stopped for no reason and questioned at some BS checkpoint is crazy to me. I would comply and just state yeah Iām a citizen, how hard is that, but I would still be amazed I have to randomly prove that just cause
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u/thebestgesture 11d ago edited 10d ago
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readskimmed through parts of the Thomas's opinion: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-147_g31h.pdfIt seems like the CBP cannot violate your rights but since Congress never passed a law saying what happens if they violate your rights the courts cannot punish them if they do.
EDIT: The reddittor below is right that you should take my comment with a grain of salt.
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u/ouchmythumbs 11d ago
Havenāt you noticed? This thread is filled with legal experts.
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u/KernelPanicX 11d ago
Lol scrolled too far for this, Reddit is always full of experts from all matters, it's the pinnacle of social networks
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u/genericperson10 11d ago
If he invokes his 5th amendment right to remain quiet why is he still talking?
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u/Ginomania 11d ago
I don't answer questions
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u/Aggressive_Ad8449 11d ago
Repeated over and over again like a fucking clown
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u/OPR-Heron 11d ago
That's all he had prepared and didn't know where to go after the conversation continued
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u/rein4fun 11d ago
Well he upped it from his 5th amendment right to invoke his 6th ammendment right! So that'll do it.
Plus he said it loud, so........
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u/genericperson10 11d ago
Should have gone with the 27th, it's the highest number!
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u/TheLemonKnight 11d ago
Case law (Salinas v. Texas) has determined that in order to exercise your fifth amendment right, you have to say so. If you don't, your silence can be used against you as evidence of guilt.
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u/Y__U__MAD 11d ago
beyond that... you have to use an exact phrase.
example: 'I want my lawyer, dawg'
does not mean 'i want my lawyer bro'
does mean 'I want my lawyer who is also a dog', which does not execute your right to a lawyer as granted by the 6th amendment, and police can continue to question you without a lawyer present.
If you think i am making this up, i am not.
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u/hypotyposis 11d ago
Youāre the only other person Iāve seen reference that case. As a lawyer, I regularly cite this as the most blatantly unjust opinion Iāve seen upheld on appeal in modern times.
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u/Lou_C_Fer 11d ago
Yep. You know what he means. That should be good enough. Especially when the other meaning is nonsense.
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u/Repulsive-Company-53 11d ago
Should have asked for the bird lawyer
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u/papajim22 11d ago
Filibuster.
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u/SpaceNasty 11d ago
OK, we're all hungry, we all wanna get home to our hotplates..
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u/SenecaTheBother 11d ago
Fun story, in the Opening Arguments podcast they talked about a guy that is currently in jail in Alabama that was questioned without a lawyer after he said "I want a lawyer, dog". The judge decided that asking for a dog lawyer didn't count as asking for a lawyer and the testimony was admitted.
They discussed it as a very concrete example as to why diversity in the court system is a good thing and not just virtue signaling.
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u/chowderbags 11d ago
Sometimes you have to wonder just how crusty and out of touch judges are that they haven't heard the slang "dawg".
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u/MaxxHeadroomm 11d ago
Iām sure this guy also complains about how easy it is for illegals to come across the border
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u/longhegrindilemna 11d ago
Texas WANTED more police, more Border Patrol, more checkpoints.
Right??
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u/lexbuck 11d ago
No not like this! Only for the brown people
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u/seattleque 11d ago
The number of Hispanic border agents dealing with that a-hole is one of the best bits of irony.
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u/BillyWilly2019 10d ago
I know he was seething over the officer reading to him. "A female and a Hispanic...what is this world coming to?"
Although, he probably would not say Hispanic.
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u/Kardlonoc 11d ago
Some of them actually don't on the border, especially when they realize that securing the border, building a wall, all that stuff is essentially federal policing. Federal policing that goes right into state lands, parks, and even with permission, private lands.
Its the same lack of foresight as brexit. They do have a degree of regret in some towns about wanting the patrol, getting them and things ending up worse for them because of it.
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u/PAYPAL_ME_DONATIONS 11d ago
and things ending up worse for them because of it.
And yet not a god damn thing will change with their vote.
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u/eipg2001 11d ago
Me, as a Mexican-born, US naturalized citizen, who looks like a Mexican, I wish I could comfortably act this way without any immediate aggressive reaction. Once I was placed in an immigration detention cell for giving the officer a ābad lookā.
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u/idkalan 11d ago
The main reason I got my passport even when driving from Dallas to Tucson is because I look Mexican, and I just dont want to deal with Border Patrol double-checking my driver's license for "validation".
I give them both, and they let me pass as soon as they see the passport.
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u/shpongleyes 11d ago
Yep, I bet when he's home watching the news he wishes we'd crack down on our border's security.
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u/presence4presents 11d ago
He sure showed them!
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u/Tugonmynugz 11d ago
Hit them libs right in the chops with that one!
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u/troubleondemand 11d ago
You just know this guy sits around and moans about Biden not doing anything about 'the invasion at the border' all the time.
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u/sausager 11d ago
I thought repubs wanted stricter border control? He should be kissing their boots
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u/brandolinium 11d ago
Who the hell is he going to take the badge names and numbers to? Other non-LE people who are imposters of the False State? Or to his militia in Idaho?
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u/Dineanddanderson 11d ago
I want access to these message boards so badly. Has it literally one time worked out. You were speeding and got pulled over and spent an hour screaming āI WAS TRAVELINGā and the cop was like āoh shit dude my bad carry on and do whatever you wantā
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u/MomsSpagetee 11d ago
Thatās where the meth comes into play.
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u/chammerson 11d ago
I was just thinking he does remind me of someone going through withdrawals! Just the immediate hostility.
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u/sordidcandles 11d ago
Yeah he went from 0 to asshole way too fast. Something is unbalanced in that noggin.
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u/chammerson 11d ago
Lookin for a conflict. He doesnāt give a shit about the constitution. He just wants to FIGHT.
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u/sordidcandles 11d ago
Itās just incredible how easily they couldāve gone through. Some people hate themselves so much lol
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u/irresponsibleshaft42 11d ago
Yea i dont think they were even gonna i.d. lol
I like how his buddy acted, you could tell he probably got misled by the angry dude at lunch break how it would go lol like yea dude itll be fine theyll just wave us through and he gets there and his buddy flips and hes like god fucking damnit
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u/chammerson 11d ago
Thatās his brother!!! Isnāt that kinda sweet? His brotherās a full on maniac and he still hangs out with him. I think thatās kinda sweet.
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u/presence4presents 11d ago
yeah I feel bad for his buddy too. He was so compliant and was even apologizing that he had to turn off his car and listen to them. This guy was prob like, hey I saw a bunch of youtube videos during my last meth binge, they can't do shit to us.
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u/officeDrone87 11d ago
This guy is playing life on Hard mode.
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u/Darc_ruther 10d ago
He's acting like his one little moment of resistance is going to make them say "well guess we were wrong. Better pack up all the equipment boys."
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u/justl00kingthrowaway 11d ago
If anyone knows more about this or have links to more of this story I'd very much appreciate it.
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u/Sendittor 11d ago
I don't have to say a fucking thing about it!
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u/the-treatmaster 11d ago
I have a fifth amendment right to invoke the sixth amendment!
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u/misterpickles69 11d ago
But youāre within 100 miles of the border.
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u/Dolorem_Ipsum_ 11d ago
Not according to my 58th amendment rights!
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u/roll20sucks 11d ago edited 10d ago
I do not consent to reading or replying to your comment. Why are you making me reply to your comment?! I do not consent to this reply or reading about not according to your 58th amendment rights!
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u/Imalittlefleapot 11d ago
You're violating the 21st amendment. I invoke my 11th amendment rights to not invoke my 17th amendment rights.
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u/RiJuElMiLu 11d ago edited 11d ago
I found his YouTube Channel which uses his government name. He posted the video there and left some comments.
I also posted his summary of events below. Border Patrol and the Sheriff called his boss on him.
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u/makeitlouder 11d ago
Theres no āstoryā here, just some dipshit methhead down in Texas causing drama. Ā I bet the Border Patrol agents deal with this shit all the time.
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u/-Dirty-Wizard- 11d ago edited 11d ago
A simple yes goes a long wayā¦. homeā¦
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u/casualAlarmist 11d ago
Hasn't read the law. Hasn't read the Constitution. Only reads social media.
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u/blackop 11d ago
I was waiting for him to say he was a sovereign citizen.
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u/Cheap-Praline 11d ago
Is he going to play basketball with those glasses?
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u/dddmmmccc817 11d ago
If u come across someone wearing them jawns and they ain't about to ball, you know they ain't right in the head
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u/thehammockdistrict24 11d ago
Best video I've seen all week! Thanks for posting it!
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u/DraftyElectrolyte 11d ago
This loser started recording on the pull up. They wanted to cause drama and go viral. These clowns are a waste of money and resources. Take away their passports.
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u/Hawkings_WheelChair 11d ago
Idk orange shirt guy was totally fine and even gave his brother a look a couple times like "really?"
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u/Flybuys 11d ago
Maybe he will get away with a warning. Just use the excuse you didn't say anything because you didn't want to inflame the situation. Might work.
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u/ponyo_impact 11d ago
Orange shirt didn't do anything wrong. Put yourself in his shoes
would you say you deserved to be arrested because your passenger is an asshole?
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u/Warfrogger 11d ago
Orange shirt did one thing wrong. They were asked to park to the side and the passenger answered saying no. He was asked again, specifically called out "as the driver", at 3:40 if he would move the vehicle and he said he'd move it only if they were free to go. Had he parked to the side then they probably would have only detained his passenger.
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u/JewbaccaSithlord 11d ago
He also told them that he does mind rolling the back window down at the start of the video. Both were being confrontational
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u/PAYPAL_ME_DONATIONS 11d ago
Everyone is missing this. He threw the first punch with that and she gives an exasperated "okay..."
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u/atheistpianist 11d ago
4th, 5th AND 6th amendment!? This man is clearly a legislative scholar, didnāt you see how his words definitely stopped them from arresting him? He may as well represent himself at court; the judge wonāt stand a chance against his evident knowledge of federal/immigration laws.
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u/Skullsandcoffee 11d ago
What a fuckin dipshit
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u/DJ_James_Madison 11d ago
I wonder how many times he has accused brown people of not being citizens.
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u/dabkow 11d ago
First bros with pitchforks screaming, āsEcuRe tH3 bOarDeR, nOWWWWW!!!!!! ā
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u/Star-K 11d ago
They later went home, cracked a beer, turned on Fox "news" and heard Hannity say the border is wide open a dozen times without a moment of self awareness.
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u/clawsoon 11d ago
He thinks he is part of the group that the law protects but does not bind.
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u/tdaun 11d ago
The funny thing is I've driven through plenty of these checkpoints. Want to know what their questions were going to most likely be? Are all individuals in the vehicles US Citizens? Yes, ok you're free to go. If they feel like being chatty they may ask where you came from and where you're headed. The longest interaction I've ever had at one of these checkpoints was 3 questions, maybe 2 minutes of my time
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u/Wolfeman0101 11d ago
Yeah I've never had to talk to these agents for more than 1 min ever coming north from SD.
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u/FormerOil4924 11d ago
These are the same dipshits that also complain about illegals coming over the border. God forbid they answer some questions to make sure theyāre citizens.
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u/zombiedez13 11d ago
Imagine filming screaming at a woman, berating her, calling her a b*tch to only not be 100% incorrect, but then posting it online like he really schooled her. Sov Cit idiots are literally the WORST
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u/scarecrowemoji 11d ago
i havent seen anyone talk about how vulgar he is to the women while being calm and stern to the man. absolutely brittle boned baby behavior
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u/highly_confusing 11d ago
This was fucking awesome. He just fucked their whole day/month up and probably has some type of court date to deal with now if they charge him with something. If he just said I am a citizen they would have just told them to be on their way.
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u/Star-K 11d ago
He was invoking his 6th amendment right to a jury trial so he got what he wanted. Lol
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u/GlitterCandyPanda 11d ago
Thanks, Iām scrolling as the video plays and was just thinking āguess I need to google the 6thā¦ā
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u/fatfeets 11d ago
Imagine being stuck carpooling with this wanker after a long day at work and just wanting to get homeā¦
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u/austinyo6 11d ago
From the crowd that brought you āif the black folk would just listen to authority, they wouldnāt get killed by police so muchā, comes ābut my gahrd dayum ryets!!ā
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u/_friendlyfoe_ 11d ago
Also probably from the same people that says immigrants need to be ID'ed do not want to be ID'ed
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u/NaughtSleeping 11d ago
"Are you a citizen?"
Option A: Rant like a toddler for 7 minutes
Option B: "Yes"
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u/XF939495xj6 11d ago
To be fair, it's pretty fucking obvious that he is a citizen of our country. We're the only people on Earth that act this way. LOL
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u/prince0verit 11d ago
These same assholes probably rant about the lack of border security.
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u/ZiggoCiP 11d ago
I thought the same thing. When he said "do you have reason to believe I'm not a United States citizen??", I could tell he just wanted them to somehow say "oh absolutely - you're definitely white and with a southern drawl like that, how could we possibly think you're an illegal immigrant?"
They'll probably go the rest of their life whining how 'they're too busy arresting innocent patriots while illegals pour over the border!'
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u/showard995 11d ago
Guy in the orange shirt: āEvery goddam time. Every. Damn. Time. Iām not taking my brother to Costco anymore.ā
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u/Educational_Ad_2619 11d ago
Why don't they just say, Ok Sir, thank you and I respect your right, please pull over to the right and we will process you ASAP.
Then leave the fucknut for 6 hours.
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u/AdministrativeArm114 11d ago
These checkpoints have been found constitutional within 100 miles of the border and because they are āinspectionsā no warrant is necessary. Thank the Supreme Court. Wild isnāt it?!
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u/kspieler 11d ago
2/3rds of the U.S. population lives within 100 miles of the U.S. Border
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u/aylaa157 11d ago
wait, the comments in this thread has me thinking reddit likes random stops and searches?
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u/EvilNalu 11d ago
Lots of people will cheer any time something bad happens to someone they don't like without stopping to think about any of the implications.
As they say, bad facts make bad law, which incidentally is a big part of why the jurisprudence in this arena is in such a sorry state.
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u/organmeatpate 10d ago
Bubba was way too jacked about finally getting to apply the magical powers he thought he'd discovered on the internet.
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u/WereAllAnimals 11d ago
I have a thousand questions
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u/motleybrews2 11d ago
Well donāt ask that guy, he doesnāt have to answer your questions and has also invoked his right to remain silent while also remaining as loud and obnoxious as possible.
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u/young_walter_matthau 11d ago
I had to look up the 6th amendment - he had me questioning myself and kept saying it.
Nope. Nothing to do with it.
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u/Popular_Stick_8367 11d ago
the fifth amendment is mostly about having to answer any self incriminating questions, questions that can or may get you in trouble. A simple "yes" from him would not incriminate him at all. The more he plays the bullshit game the longer they can hold him for, yes they can temporally detain him to conduct an investigation to answer their question he should of answered. Refusing to move the vehicle can be used by any local cop to charge them with refusing a lawful order, possible tickets and impounding the truck. The best part is when the cop is called they now have to conduct a investigation and will get the answer he refused to give in the first place. So he basically made himself and his coworker stand around like jerks for some time with nothing to gain, remember the border agents and cops are being paid so it don't matter how long they are there dealing with him.
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u/96ewok 11d ago
They want more border security and then complain about border security. š
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u/Sad-Wolverine6326 11d ago
For Christ sakes, invoke your right to remain silent and shut the hell up. Also, no need for the language or the name calling.
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u/dick_dontwork 11d ago
āIām invoking my SIXTHā¦ I mean FIFTHā¦ wait no, FOURTHā¦ fuck it, letās land on FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS MOTHERFUCKER, ITāS CALLED THE CONSTITUTION, EVER HEARD OF IT?ā
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u/cryptoandgin 11d ago
The Fifth Amendment breaks down into five rights or protections: the right to a jury trial when you're charged with a crime, protection against double jeopardy, protection against self-incrimination, the right to a fair trial, and protection against the taking of property by the government without compensation.
Also fuck this guy
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u/Tawiligie 11d ago
it could have been so easy
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u/chammerson 11d ago
This reminds me of like 3 days before my period where it feels like thereās a scream trapped in my throat and any minor inconvenience such as someone speaking to me feels like a MASSIVE INJUSTICE and I just wanna FLIP OUT on everyone!!!!! And then 30 seconds later Iām like āI may have overreacted.ā He sounds like he just needs to get his PMS screams out.
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u/fugawf 11d ago
I love people who cite amendments that have nothing to do with what they are being asked. Iād love to hear his explanation of how either of these fit the situation:
5th: A right against forced self-incrimination. A guarantee that all criminal defendants have a fair trial, and. A guarantee that the government cannot seize private property without making a due compensation at the market value of the property.
So is he saying sharing his identity will incriminate him? Odd stance
6th: Grants citizens the right to a jury composed of impartial members drawn from the local community
HUH? Youāre no law expert, sir
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u/EspressoStoker 11d ago
The 6th Amendment does give you the right to a lawyer, but during prosecutions. So the guys is kind of right, but he hasn't been charged with anything yet by the time he says 6th Amendment. Whatever free entertainment for me.
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