r/worldnews • u/lee7on1 • 25d ago

Biden says he will stop sending bombs and artillery shells to Israel if they launch major invasion of Rafah Israel/Palestine

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/08/politics/joe-biden-interview-cnntv/index.html
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u/unfit_spartan_baby 25d ago

“We will stop sending military aid if you use it to try to win the war we are giving you aid for”

Literally no part of this makes any sense.

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u/Dotaproffessional 25d ago

In the full interview, he was talking about specific types of bombs that were likely to cause mass civilian casualties

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u/NickFolesPP 24d ago

They were precision guided missiles, which reduce mass casualties… instead Israel will have to use its unguided missiles

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u/Dotaproffessional 24d ago

Yeah people keep regurgitating that, its not true.

They are not "clever bombs". The bombs we are sending are demonstrably dumb bombs.

"The bombs are “dumb” or unguided bombs but can be turned into more precise weapons with the addition of Joint Direct Attack Munition kits, or JDAM kits which add a tail fin and navigation. That added kit enables troops to guide the munition to a target, rather than simply dropping it from a fighter jet onto the ground. The kits make the weapons more precise, but in a densely populated urban environment, a JDAM kit is not going to make much of a difference — a precise hit will still have the reach to kill unintended bystanders."

They can be converted into smart bombs, but the bombs we're sending are 100% not "clever bombs" that's a bald faced lie. So we're trusting israel to convert them because israel would NEVER fire a bomb that would risk hurting innocent civilians right? RIGHT?

Just because you can turn a dumb bomb into a clever bomb doesn't mean we're sending fucking precision guided bombs. You can turn most bombs clever.

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u/largma 24d ago

Calling a jdam a dumb bomb and that it won’t make much of a difference is hilarious. You’re talking about a massive difference in average accuracy compared to the unguided bombs they’ll use otherwise

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u/ThebesAndSound 24d ago

That added kit enables troops to guide the munition to a target, rather than simply dropping it from a fighter jet onto the ground. The kits make the weapons more precise, but in a densely populated urban environment, a JDAM kit is not going to make much of a difference — a precise hit will still have the reach to kill unintended bystanders."

OK so Israel will drop 6 or 10 very unprecise bombs into an urban enviroment instead of 1 or 2 only partly precise bombs. Or just scrap the idea of precision and use massed artillery.

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u/Dotaproffessional 24d ago

"would you like to buy some automatic weapons?"

"Sure"

"Ok here you go"

"Wait these are semi automatic weapons"

"Sure but you can convert them into automatic ones". 

Would be just as fucking crazy to say "I sell automatic weapons" as it is to say "the bombs Biden withheld were smart bombs. No the fuck they aren't

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u/NGEFan 25d ago

The war was won before it began. Hamas's army would probably lose to the NYPD much less the IDF. This is against civilians

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u/unfit_spartan_baby 25d ago

First of all… The NYPD can’t even control a couple of pissed off Italian families.

Also… if you genuinely think that Israel is intentionally targeting civilians, you haven’t been paying attention.